Posts by nuthouse escapee

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Schizophrenia

by frankiespeakin in

while doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.

basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.

"if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".

nuthouse escapee

BOTR I have a problem believing these people are 'closer to God'. In their mind maybe they think so and that the voices are from God even when telling them to do horrific things.

Quite often these ones will feel that they are on a special mission from God. My son did not experience that but my brother did.

Both my brother and my son were highly intelligent people, non-violent and quite soft spoken---WHEN NORMAL. The delusional ill person became violent, angry, and there was no convincing them they were wrong in their thinking. My son's psychiatrist told us at one point to not waste our time trying to convince our son otherwise once he had a fixated thought in his head. Even the psychiatrist was unable to get through many times.

My son was tried on several medications before the right combo was found. I remember how horrified my ex and I were when we went to see him the 2nd time he was hospitalized. The medication they tried caused him to shuffle around with a weird smile on his face and to drool uncontrolably. Needless to say they tried another combo of medications that worked very well.

My sincere sympathies to anyone dealing with this illness either personally or with a family member/friend. The treatments have come a long way. The biggest problem is to convince the person too not go off their meds when they feel good. The relapses become worse.

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Schizophrenia

by frankiespeakin in

while doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.

basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.

"if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".

nuthouse escapee

Thanks Clarity, my son is now 37 and I have been assured that he is doing ok. (He lives with my ex)

Still Thinking: It is an illness with varying degrees of severity. Some see, smell and hear things that aren't there, which isn't going to hurt anyone but others like my brother and my son are dangerous without medication. The Mental Health Facility my son was in is known around the world and people come from all over to go there. The information we were given is that 1 in 100 people have some form of the illness. Perhaps the people in this study had one of the less severe forms of the illness or maybe they went into remission and had a mental break later. The problem with schizophrenia is that every time a person has a psychotic break they get worse. These are the same people who when not medicated push people off sub-way platforms.

I better stop posting as I don't want to hi-jack this thread. My apologies Frankiespeakin. This is just a really emotional topic for me. Leslie

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Schizophrenia

by frankiespeakin in

while doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.

basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.

"if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".

nuthouse escapee

Schizophrenia can come on after a traumatic experience. In my son's case we figure the trigger point was when his sister (my daughter) almost died of anorexia. She was 13 years old and when hospitalized the nurse took us aside and told us that her urine was like mud and that her kidneys had almost completely shut down. She was 78 Lbs when admitted to the hospital. She was hospitalized for 3 months.

My older brother, year and a half older than me, began his journey down the schizophrenic path when he was 19. Our mother passed away and this shock started it for him. He was never medicated and not violent until in his 30's. If he didn't like something you said he would hit you. I nearly lost the hearing in my left ear from him hitting me upside the head. It came to a head when he reached his 40's and threw a knife at a guy where he worked. Needless to say he lost his job. He ended up on Welfare and finally got treatment after a suicide attempt. As you can see, I'm not blowing smoke out my arse, I have dealt with this with 2 family members.

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Calling Out Jehovah's Name

by God_Delusion in

if you're in trouble today, don't panic.

all you need to do is yell out at the top of your voice, "jehovah!".

well, that's what many jehovah's witnesses believe.

nuthouse escapee

Well, I've been known to cry out "Oh God, Oh God" in the throes of passion, but never The Name.

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Schizophrenia

by frankiespeakin in

while doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.

basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.

"if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".

nuthouse escapee

Frankiespeakin: I took the time to read the entire link you provided. My son has schizophrenia. He was in a loving environment and allowed to have his fantasies/delusions. The whole mess started when he was 16 yrs. old. It began with him asking me if I had put 'something' in his food. He thought I was trying to poison him. It progressed to him hiding a butcher knife under his mattress so that 'someone' wouldn't come in and kill him at night. He was not medicated until 2 years later when things got even worse. So I have a problem with that theory that if left to their fantasy they will come out of it.

As I said he was not medicated until 2 years later. So he definitely didn't 'work through' it in 6 weeks, not even six months. He started becoming violent and his only emotion was rage. There was no other emotional response at all. The freakiest was when he declared he was the Devil and 3 days later he thought he was God.

He came home one day after work convinced that people were all looking at him and laughing at him, especially women. He then said he wanted to kill them! We took him to his psychiatrist and she immediately had him committed to a Mental Health Facility. He was not medicated right away and spent 6 weeks there. He wouldn't bathe or change his clothes and they let him do that if he wanted.

Nothing was working so he ended up medicated. So, maybe this method doesn't work for everyone. Just thought I'd tell you my experience with dealing with it, and it wasn't pretty. Leslie

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I've entered the embarrassing stage of pregnancy - let's have a laugh :)

by freshstart in

so as you get farther along in your pregnancy and you get bigger and bigger, certain bodily functions are hard to control.

the other day my husband, son and i went out for a nice lunch.

we were dressed up and really enjoying ourselves, when it happened.

nuthouse escapee

lol, ahh the joys of motherhood. I also experienced the kick in the bladder and pee yourself incidence. I used to hate it when the baby would turn and decide to put its arse on one side, cripe the dress or shirt would look totally screwed up with a lopsided bulge. It's funny now but wasn't at the time. Leslie

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Blood Cards :Now they ask for photocopy of the signed document

by raymond frantz in

we have been asked for a photocopy for each of our family's blood signed cards for the congragation's secretary records .we 've never been asked before ,is this a new thing ?

does anyone know more about it ?.

nuthouse escapee

I wonder if they want a copy of 'your decision' as proof in case a family member dies so that they can produce it as evidence in court. We know how underhanded and slippery these b**tards are, so it would't surprise me if this was the real motivation behind it. (can you tell I would never trust them again) Leslie

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-23-2012 WT Study (FAMILY)

by blondie in

jw
friends

the oneness of.

what is the purpose of gods.

how do we observe the oneness.

nuthouse escapee

THANKS BLONDIE, I noticed something odd in the quote from the Elders Manual/Handbook (ref para 8) regarding brazen conduct can be used to disfellowship someone who continues unnecessary association WITH SOMEONE WHO IS A NON-RELATIVE. I wonder why it doesn't mention brazen conduct for someone associating with a disfellowshipped family member? Kinda weird. -Leslie-

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